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[AssKickingBoots]

NOLA, on 22 March 2012 - 07:48 PM, said:

I think you misunderstand. I have no problem with his faith. There are plenty of good Christians who are also adults. Tebow just carries himself like a child. The virgin thing is one part of it that easy to throw stones at, but his overall posture is that of an eleven-year-old, not a grown man. My point is: Elway is right to treat him like a child because he is. I mean, have you seen an "aw shucks" interview with the guy? He might well be slightly autistic and I'm not even joking.

I only mentioned it because you brought up the virgin thing. I know what you mean. Honestly, Peyton has a little "Aw shucks" (it's kind of a Southern thing) about him too, it's just easier to cast aside because he seems like he's got some kind of mean streak under it all and he's gotten shit done.

[NOLA]

AssKickingBoots, on 22 March 2012 - 07:55 PM, said:

I only mentioned it because you brought up the virgin thing. I know what you mean. Honestly, Peyton has a little "Aw shucks" (it's kind of a Southern thing) about him too, it's just easier to cast aside because he seems like he's got some kind of mean streak under it all and he's gotten shit done.

Peyton is much more collected than Tebow. I actually like Tebow, really. I respect his outlook on life, and as much as it pains me, I enjoyed watching him pull off the impossible several games over last year. But if you want me to say that he doesn't deserve to be called "kid", or that it's somehow pejorative, no dice. He is a kid. He's mind-numbingly immature for someone with his level of celebrity. It's small wonder that he's getting kicked around like a neutered puppy.

[kc#1fan]

NOLA, on 22 March 2012 - 08:05 PM, said:

Peyton is much more collected than Tebow. I actually like Tebow, really. I respect his outlook on life, and as much as it pains me, I enjoyed watching him pull off the impossible several games over last year. But if you want me to say that he doesn't deserve to be called "kid", or that it's somehow pejorative, no dice. He is a kid. He's mind-numbingly immature for someone with his level of celebrity. It's small wonder that he's getting kicked around like a neutered puppy.

He looks for the best in people, and is always trying to point it out. He is a tremendous optimist, who has become a cog in the great celebrity wheel. It is a shame our culture attempts to get rid of the nice guy because they feel it makes them feel unsecure about their own short-comings. I bet Tebow is a lot different person when you get to know him than the media has painted him to be.

[The_Jonas]

kc#1fan, on 22 March 2012 - 08:12 PM, said:

He looks for the best in people, and is always trying to point it out. He is a tremendous optimist, who has become a cog in the great celebrity wheel. It is a shame our culture attempts to get rid of the nice guy because they feel it makes them feel unsecure about their own short-comings. I bet Tebow is a lot different person when you get to know him than the media has painted him to be.

The media has basically painted him as the second coming I'm not really sure what you're talking about. Most of the flak he takes from pundits is about his rather sub-par quarterbacking skills.

[NOLA]

kc#1fan, on 22 March 2012 - 08:12 PM, said:

He looks for the best in people, and is always trying to point it out. He is a tremendous optimist, who has become a cog in the great celebrity wheel. It is a shame our culture attempts to get rid of the nice guy because they feel it makes them feel unsecure about their own short-comings. I bet Tebow is a lot different person when you get to know him than the media has painted him to be.

Tebow doesn't make me feel insecure, and the thing I like most about him is his irrepressible optimism. However, optimism and maturity are not mutually exclusive. Again, I think he carries himself like a child in all media appearances.

[kc#1fan]

The_Jonas, on 22 March 2012 - 08:22 PM, said:

The media has basically painted him as the second coming I'm not really sure what you're talking about. Most of the flak he takes from pundits is about his rather sub-par quarterbacking skills.

I can see why you are not completely sure what I am talking about. I am working nights and the post was kind of a ramble with several points not well defined. Regarding the Flak he takes I think it is about equally divided, just ask Kurt Warner. But, I don't think Tebow minds the Flak.

[kc#1fan]

NOLA, on 22 March 2012 - 08:26 PM, said:

Tebow doesn't make me feel insecure, and the thing I like most about him is his irrepressible optimism. However, optimism and maturity are not mutually exclusive. Again, I think he carries himself like a child in all media appearances.

Point well taken, but some of that could be a lack of training. For example, my parents are both socially awkward in their own way. Thus all three of their children (me included) have social awkward tendencies. But, all of us have improved because we all married strong willed, non-socially awkward spouses. It is funny how similar the personality traits are in all of our spouses.

BTW,
I am glad Tebow doesn't make you feel insecure, but I do think that there are many people that occurs with

[warthog]

NFL scouts concerned about Manning’s arm strength

Posted by Evan Silva on March 27, 2012, 9:46 PM EDT
Reuters
The last time he stepped off a football field, Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning was wrapping up a 33-touchdown, 17-interception, 4,700-yard season in Indianapolis. The yardage was Manning’s career high, and only once before in his 13-year career had he thrown more touchdown passes.

Multiple pro scouts told NFL Network’s Albert Breer, however, that despite the lofty numbers, Manning was showing signs of decline. He was 34 then, and is now 36.

“The falloff was significant on film,” one scout from an AFC rival team told Breer. “He showed stiffness and lost athletic traits. What made him so special was never his athletic ability or movement skills, but you could see it with his arm strength, too.”

The scout was specifically critical of Manning’s diminished velocity.

“His rotation was fine, his accuracy was fine,” said the scout. “But as far as the ball getting from Point A to Point B, and how much time he was giving defensive backs to drive on the football, there was enough there for concern.”

Observed another executive for a team that pursued Manning offseason, “Seeing some of the footage of him throwing, there was depreciation in velocity and zip.” The club exec does think Manning will be “fine,” and expects his passing velocity and arm power to “keep getting better” while recovering from neck surgeries.

Our guess is that Manning will immediately resume his highly productive ways in Denver, and keep it up through the 2013 season or so. As Florio has noted, though, only the first year of Manning’s contract is guaranteed.

The Broncos can get out of the deal easily after that.

[warthog]

BTW. Peterhead King has a break down of Mannings' fatal decision to go to Denver in this article. Bottom line as to why he did not include KC in his choice of teams? He didn't know anyone here. Man I hate this guy.

http://cnnsi.printth...96623/index.htm

[Pissonoakland]

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Look at the teams that wanted in but were cut out. Kansas City: Manning knows G.M. Scott Pioli but isn't close to anyone there.

Weak...

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One more surprise: Manning got a call informing him that Seahawks coach Pete Carroll had flown, unannounced, with Seattle G.M. John Schneider to the airport in Englewood. Carroll would do whatever Manning wanted—talk for a while in Denver or on the plane to Arizona, his next visit, or fly him to Seattle for a lengthier discussion.
Peyton Manning does not like surprises. He said no thanks. Carroll flew home.

Also weak.