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[The_Jonas]

warthog, on 20 January 2012 - 10:11 AM, said:

Would you consider Richardson a special talent?

I have not watched enough of him to say either way. I've heard several media heads say he was, but that's their opinion.

[AssKickingBoots]

I'm not against drafting Richardson, but I'm definitely not for it.

I guess if you plan on trotting out Cassel at QB, it might take two exceptional running backs to make the offense work.

[The_Jonas]

AssKickingBoots, on 20 January 2012 - 11:05 AM, said:

I'm not against drafting Richardson, but I'm definitely not for it.

I guess if you plan on trotting out Cassel at QB, it might take two exceptional running backs to make the offense work.

Yeah, get that, but I just get stalled when I think about that logically.

'Our QB is so bad we should draft another great running back".

I mean for a person to think drafting Richardson is a good idea, they would first have to acknowledge the issues at Quarterback. That's great for a fan since they're powerless to really make the decision. However that kind of thought process from management would be beyond frustrating. It means they know what the issue is and just want to patch around it rather than addressing it.

[Justme]

I have always believed in drafting the best player available when it's your turn. Granted we have needs; however, if we are getting a #11 pick we should be getting at least a #11 talent. Richardson is a top ten player, he is well worth the pick, who says Charles will be 100%

[SPC Hephner]

2011 NFL Rushing leaders:
MJD- 2nd round
Ray Rice- 2nd round
Michael Turner- 5th round
LeSean McCoy- 2nd round
Arian Foster- undrafted
Frank Gore- 3rd round

Those are the top 6 rushers from the 2011 season. As you can see, none of them were taken in the first round, and Arian Foster wasnt even drafted. Thats why I dont want us to draft Richardson. We have way to many other holes to fill than RB. We can find a nice back to pair with Charles in free agency or in later rounds of the draft

[AssKickingBoots]

The_Jonas, on 20 January 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:

Yeah, get that, but I just get stalled when I think about that logically.

'Our QB is so bad we should draft another great running back".

I mean for a person to think drafting Richardson is a good idea, they would first have to acknowledge the issues at Quarterback. That's great for a fan since they're powerless to really make the decision. However that kind of thought process from management would be beyond frustrating. It means they know what the issue is and just want to patch around it rather than addressing it.

Right. That's part of why I'm not really for it either. I'd much rather fix the obvious problem.

SPC Hephner, on 20 January 2012 - 11:57 AM, said:

2011 NFL Rushing leaders:
MJD- 2nd round
Ray Rice- 2nd round
Michael Turner- 5th round
LeSean McCoy- 2nd round
Arian Foster- undrafted
Frank Gore- 3rd round

Those are the top 6 rushers from the 2011 season. As you can see, none of them were taken in the first round, and Arian Foster wasnt even drafted. Thats why I dont want us to draft Richardson. We have way to many other holes to fill than RB. We can find a nice back to pair with Charles in free agency or in later rounds of the draft

Also, Charles was a 3rd rounder.

Great runningbacks can be had all over the draft.

[HG]

Anyone remember Priest? Plus running backs take so much punishment most last only a couple years.

[greatnessinc]

I'd hope whoever we pick is closer in talent to Eric Berry than Tyson Jackson.

[The_Jonas]

HG, on 20 January 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

Anyone remember Priest? Plus running backs take so much punishment most last only a couple years.

I think you're attempting to argue against us, but that's the main reason you shouldn't draft RB's so high.

They don't last.

[HG]

The_Jonas, on 20 January 2012 - 05:19 PM, said:

I think you're attempting to argue against us, but that's the main reason you shouldn't draft RB's so high.

They don't last.

Actaully you have my point reversed. He wasnt even drafted and he did okay.

[chiefsfaninky]

Richardson is very intriging, but not necessarily a priority. Would rather have his teammate Donta Hightower.

[Dom]

If Richardson is there we need to grab him. Put as many playmakers on this offense as possible. I would rather have an AP type RB than another Tyson Jackson.

[BigRedChiefsMachine]

I'd rather have a potential QB than a guaranteed RB. If we are dead set against QB, I'd rather see OL taken (C, G or T), another WR if Bowe leaves, another CB if Carr leaves, a pass rusher, somebody to compete with Belcher, before I'd consider RB. I just don't value that position as nearly as high as other priorities. If Richardson is the best talent on the board and nobody at those positions I listed is a fit for the #11 pick, then I'd prefer to trade down. Maybe we can get a team with a few more holes to give us some extra picks for depth.

[jambal67]

I'm with you. BRCM. I think we have bigger needs than a RB. I'm not totally opposed to trading down in this draft. Clearly we haven't got the ammo to trade for RG3, Luck isn't going to fall in our hands, and there just isn't another QB worthy of a #11 or 12. I don't see a WR as a priority either, since we'll probably have Cassel as our starter come Sept. I think we have to look at C/G and a RT. The problem with the C/G is we don't know what we have in Hudson. I believe Carr would like to stay in KC and we'll come to terms with him. However, Arenas may be able to fill his spot and we can move Brown to the nickel. I think we're OK in the pass rush dept. with Hali and Houston and we re-signed Siler.

[autodrummer]

I wouldn't mind Richardson if we can get a Tackle in FA. But then I guess you could argue we could get a RB in FA too.

I still want us to sell the farm for RG3. So if that doesn't happen not much else matters in the 1st rd.

[BigRedChiefsMachine]

In my opinion, you can never have too many guys that can get after the QB. Even though Hali is a special player, and it looks like Houston might be a special player, there is always room for more.

[EstablishedAce]

Yeah I'm one of the few that would love this pick. I won't let myself get my hopes up for a QB so, we might as well make sure we keep a top 10 running game. If JC comes back healthy then we have the best combo in the league. If he doesn't, we still have a top ten runner.

[The_Jonas]

BigRedChiefsMachine, on 21 January 2012 - 10:46 AM, said:

In my opinion, you can never have too many guys that can get after the QB. Even though Hali is a special player, and it looks like Houston might be a special player, there is always room for more.

Exactly.

You can never have too many running backs either, but one is much easier to find than the other.

Unless we want to replace our running back, drafting another one in the first round is just an example of bad team building. We have other needs and RB is one of the easiest positions to address in the later rounds.

[HG]

Would you trade Charles if it got us into the position to get RG3?

[NOLA]

HG, on 21 January 2012 - 03:55 PM, said:

Would you trade Charles if it got us into the position to get RG3?

Coming off of an injury? Sure. I don't know who would make that deal, though. I also understand if someone disagrees with me. But the bottom line is we're never going to win shit without a real quarterback, regardless of how great Charles is (and he is).