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Posted 04 May 2011 - 11:20 AM


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Appeals court sets June 3 hearing on NFL lockout fight

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) -- A federal appeals court has agreed to a speeded-up schedule to hear the NFL's appeal of the order that lifted the lockout a week ago.

The 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in St. Louis announced the schedule Tuesday. The court set a June 3 hearing, with 30 minutes of oral argument for each side before Judges Duane Benton, Kermit Bye and Steven Colloton.

U.S. District Judge Susan Richard Nelson issued her injunction stopping the lockout last week. The league appealed to the 8th Circuit, and the same three-judge panel issued a temporary stay of Nelson's order on Friday.

The lockout was put back in place by the owners a few hours later. The 8th Circuit is still deciding whether to make the stay more permanent.





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Posted 04 May 2011 - 12:49 PM

June 3?? Speeded up hearing?? If this is speeded up I would hate to see actual time. If coaches made game time decisions in this manner they would be unemployed in a heartbeat ( yeeees, I know that they are beating our corners on that out route but I am speeding up my actions so that by next month I will have a correction). Come on folks!!

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 02:36 PM

View PostRazorChief, on 04 May 2011 - 12:49 PM, said:

June 3?? Speeded up hearing?? If this is speeded up I would hate to see actual time. If coaches made game time decisions in this manner they would be unemployed in a heartbeat ( yeeees, I know that they are beating our corners on that out route but I am speeding up my actions so that by next month I will have a correction). Come on folks!!

Thats kinda how I felt to. Really that is the earliest they could get a hearing? And what else needs to be said? Can't they go over the info in the last hearing or trial and make a judgment off that? Feel like a child I am tired of waiting!!!! :bawl:

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 03:10 PM

I guess when you consider that attorneys are paid in billable hours and such then maybe by waiting til June 3 then the owners will realize, after getting a very hefty bill, that this whole situation is just stupid.

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 08:50 PM

They all need to be fired and new people need to take over, this whole situation is out of hand.
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Posted 06 May 2011 - 04:39 PM

I was wondering about this today--we hear about "the owners" imposing the lockout like it is a cohesive group all in unanimous agreement on the negotiations and such. I am curious as to which owners are actually running the show (Jerry Jones comes to mind) and how much influence they have over the ownership group. Surely some of the owners realize the stupidity of the whole thing.

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Posted 07 May 2011 - 01:05 AM

I want my damn NFL Football off-season, Free Agency and Camp back damnit!
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Posted 11 May 2011 - 03:55 PM

I find myself wondering...if the players want so much more money before they'll play, and are putting money over playing, why are so many of them getting together for workouts/practices/excercises with no trainers available, putting themselves at risk to lose their jobs....

just a thought was all.

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Posted 13 May 2011 - 09:17 AM

course, not like any of this really matters. The end of the world is in 8 days anyways.

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 03:45 PM

Okay. A bit of good news. At least the two sides went back to talking to each other today. Now the bad news--they actually aren't talking to each other because every body and his brother has an attorney with them. Nothing against the legal profession but this is the core of the problem. The ONLY folks benefitting from this whole mess are the lawyers. There is a serious problem when the folks supposedly entrusted to solving the thing can't even talk to each other without some counsel in their ear. Remember the old Andy Griffith episode where a U.S./Soviet conference took place over Aunt Bea's dinner table? That is what we need now.

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 06:07 PM

And now they really arent talking anymore.

A federal appeals court gave N.F.L. owners a critical victory over players in their labor battle Monday, granting owners a stay on an injunction that would have stopped the lockout that began March 12.

The N.F.L. will remain closed for business – with no free agency, trades or mini-camps permitted -- through the duration of the owners’ appeal of the injunction that was granted by a district court judge. Oral arguments on the appeal will be heard on June 3 in St. Louis and a decision is expected several weeks later, perhaps coming about a month before training camps are scheduled to open and little more than two months before the regular season begins in September. The decision by the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals was widely expected by parties on both sides of the standoff, after the court issued a temporary stay more than two weeks ago. This decision was viewed as a crucial one in determining who has the upper hand in the standoff between players and management. If owners had failed to get the stay, the lockout would have been lifted and the league would have been forced to put in rules to govern transactions and open free agency. Players would have been allowed to work out at team facilities, signings and trades would have gone forward, some bonuses would have been paid and coaches could have conducted mini-camps. That would have made it exceedingly difficult for the league, even if it had won the appeal late in June, to reinstate the lockout, giving a huge advantage to players and perhaps leading the owners to seek a settlement even before the appeal was decided. In their brief to the court, the league emphasized how difficult it would be to “unscramble the eggs” if a month’s worth of transactions had taken place only to have the owners win on appeal and defeat the injunction.

“This is the decision that, practically, means everything,” said Robert Boland, a professor of sports management at New York University and a labor and antitrust lawyer who has worked as a sports agent. “This is who has control of the game board. That’s far more important, practically, than who has the legal rights on their side. If the league is opened for business it’s very difficult for owners to push them back out. Every day they are open, the economic value and the optics says you need to stay open. This puts a lot of pressure on players. No roster bonuses will be paid. There won’t be per diems which are important to younger players. It’s the worst thing for them from a solidarity perspective.”

Still, Boland also said the sides are highly balkanized and he does not expect fissures on either side soon. The outcome of the appeal would swing leverage to one side and if the owners win the appeal, the lockout would remain in place, putting tremendous pressure on players to reach an agreement with owners before they start missing game checks when the season begins. If the players win the appeal, the lockout would be lifted and owners would be forced to open the league. Because owners do not want to pay players while they are being sued on antitrust grounds – and while the case wends its way through courts in a process that could take several years -- owners would likely seek to negotiate a settlement of the lawsuit long before the lawsuit could be decided on its merits.


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Posted 17 May 2011 - 05:21 AM

Since these court rulings come from different courts at different levels, which one actually takes precedence?

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 09:42 PM

Looking on the bright side of the lockout ..... Packers that live in town year round are now practicing at Schneider Stadium on the campus of St. Norbert College. :teeth:

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 10:40 AM

So did anyone hear anything about this?
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Posted 06 June 2011 - 07:57 AM

View Postgreatnessinc, on 05 June 2011 - 10:40 AM, said:

So did anyone hear anything about this?

Yes.

the Appeals court basically told both sides "settle this out of court, or neither side is goign to like the results."

they apparently also stated something along the lines of "You wouldn't hurt our feelings if you settled out of court and didn't come back."

I thought it sounded like the judges were telling both sides to grow the f**k up and get it figured out on their own.




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