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[warthog]

Big Ten makes initial offer to Big 12 pair

The Big Ten Conference has extended initial offers to join the league to four universities including Missouri and Nebraska from the Big 12, according to multiple sources close to the negotiations.

While nothing can be approved until the Big Ten presidents and chancellors meet the first week of June in Chicago, the league has informed the two Big 12 schools, Notre Dame and Rutgers that it would like to have them join. It is not yet clear whether the Big Ten will expand to 14 or 16 teams but sources indicated Missouri and Nebraska are invited in either scenario. Notre Dame has repeatedly declined the opportunity to join the Big Ten. If Notre Dame remains independent, Rutgers would be the 14th team. The Big Ten would then decide whether to stop at 14 or extend offers to two other schools. If Notre Dame joins, sources say an offer will be extended to one other school making it a 16-team league.

In order for the University of Missouri to join the Big Ten, the Missouri Board of Regents will still have to approve the move. Sources close to the governing body say the Big Ten has told officials that Mizzou could add $1.3 million per month in revenue to the lucrative Big Ten Television Network. The Big Ten Network is currently offered on basic cable to very few of over 7 million residents living in Missouri television markets and adding it throughout the state will be a windfall for the conference.

Big Ten representatives have also told Missouri officials they would like to have the entire expansion process wrapped up this summer with a formal announcement coming no later than July.

The University of Missouri is currently under contract with the Big 12 conference and will have to pay a stiff penalty to leave the Big 12. The Big 12 charter states any member will lose between 50 and 100 percent of its shared annual revenue depending on the length of notice any school gives. According to published reports, Missouri receives around $9 million annually in shared football revenue from the Big 12. According to sources, it seems likely Missouri would give one- year notice. It is projected that Missouri's football revenues would increase by $10 million or more per year when it joins the Big Ten versus what it currently receives in the Big 12.

http://www.810whb.com/article/3527

[Dom]

I'm ready for some conference chaos

[Los Pollos Hermanos]

The Kansas City Star reported Tuesday afternoon that Missouri has not been invited to join the Big 10 Conference.

This finding refutes a Kansas City sports-radio report (not 610) from earlier Tuesday, that started Missouri and Nebraska were among 4 teams to be invited to join the Big 10 Conference.

A source long involved in Missouri athletics told The Star that the Big Ten has made no such offer. Nebraska chancellor Harvey Perlman replied "none whatsoever" when asked by the Lincoln Journal-Star whether the report had any validity concerning his school.

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[AssKickingBoots]

It's tough knowing who's telling the truth here. There's probably some truth to both. Missouri and Nebraska are definitely in talks concerning the Big Ten, and I bet it's further along than they're letting on.

I've heard people talking about a Big XII/PAC 10 network to compete with the Big Ten network. Even if Missouri does stay in the Big XII, I really don't like this idea. Yeah, you'd have more teams so a larger audience (24 teams supposedly) than the Big Ten, but as it stands, I don't care about the PAC 10 (no offense TrueBlue and others). I care about Big XII sports, so I'd think half the people wouldn't like what would be on this network half the time.

The whole point of a dedicated network is it pays more attention to your school and their standing in the conference. Having a shared network effectively halves the amount of air time a school gets. 24 teams might not be better than 14 or 16 in this case.

[Los Pollos Hermanos]

AssKickingBoots, on 11 May 2010 - 07:23 AM, said:

It's tough knowing who's telling the truth here. There's probably some truth to both. Missouri and Nebraska are definitely in talks concerning the Big Ten, and I bet it's further along than they're letting on.

I've heard people talking about a Big XII/PAC 10 network to compete with the Big Ten network. Even if Missouri does stay in the Big XII, I really don't like this idea. Yeah, you'd have more teams so a larger audience (24 teams supposedly) than the Big Ten, but as it stands, I don't care about the PAC 10 (no offense TrueBlue and others). I care about Big XII sports, so I'd think half the people wouldn't like what would be on this network half the time.

The whole point of a dedicated network is it pays more attention to your school and their standing in the conference. Having a shared network effectively halves the amount of air time a school gets. 24 teams might not be better than 14 or 16 in this case.

Without Nebraska and Missouri, the Big 12 would need to partner with the Pac 10 to remain competitive with the Big 10 and SEC. If Missouri and Nebraska stay, then a Big 12 only channel could work.

[warthog]

DallasChief, on 11 May 2010 - 07:52 AM, said:

Without Nebraska and Missouri, the Big 12 would need to partner with the Pac 10 to remain competitive with the Big 10 and SEC. If Missouri and Nebraska stay, then a Big 12 only channel could work.

And share the revenue more evenly.

[AssKickingBoots]

DallasChief, on 11 May 2010 - 07:52 AM, said:

Without Nebraska and Missouri, the Big 12 would need to partner with the Pac 10 to remain competitive with the Big 10 and SEC. If Missouri and Nebraska stay, then a Big 12 only channel could work.

Some people (particularly Keitzman on 810) are saying the PAC 10 is looking to expand to 12 and he expects the Big XII will remain at 12 teams. If they both stay at 10 though afterwards, that move would make more sense. They'd likely start having the PAC 10 face the (ten team) Big XII in the Rose Bowl, essentially making it a Mega 20 team conference championship.

That sounds great in theory, but it isn't much (if any) different than the PAC 10 and Big Ten do now, except for the combined network. Maybe there would intentionally be more Big XII/PAC 10 non-con games as a result. That does make it sound interesting, and maybe it's a reason the network could be more viable.

Honestly, I'd think a PAC 10/Big XII network and alliance would be successful, but I doubt it'd be as successful as the Big Ten network has been.

I'm thinking some bridges are getting burned though and Missouri is as good as gone from the Big XII.

[warthog]

I don't see the Pac 10/Big 10 matchup in the Rose Bowl ending anytime soon. The Big 12, Don Bebee et al have their heads up their asses and don't see the danger looming for the Big 12 if they keep cowtowing to Texas. It will end up being an all Texas conference with the two northern Texas teams, OU and OSU, and KU and K State. They have major problems.

[Los Pollos Hermanos]

AssKickingBoots, on 11 May 2010 - 04:10 PM, said:

Some people (particularly Keitzman on 810) are saying the PAC 10 is looking to expand to 12 and he expects the Big XII will remain at 12 teams. If they both stay at 10 though afterwards, that move would make more sense. They'd likely start having the PAC 10 face the (ten team) Big XII in the Rose Bowl, essentially making it a Mega 20 team conference championship.

That sounds great in theory, but it isn't much (if any) different than the PAC 10 and Big Ten do now, except for the combined network. Maybe there would intentionally be more Big XII/PAC 10 non-con games as a result. That does make it sound interesting, and maybe it's a reason the network could be more viable.

Honestly, I'd think a PAC 10/Big XII network and alliance would be successful, but I doubt it'd be as successful as the Big Ten network has been.

I'm thinking some bridges are getting burned though and Missouri is as good as gone from the Big XII.

The Big 12 will most definitely pick up two more teams if they only lose Missouri and Nebraska. But the teams they would likely add would not have the same TV appeal as Nebraska or the major markets of Missouri, so an alliance with the PAC 10 would still be needed.

I doubt the alliance would change the Rose Bowl match up. The Rose Bowl people are still going to want to bring in the Big 10 audience.

If the Big 12 loses more then just MU and NU, then all bets are off. It would be a free-for-all with teams scattering to all the other conferences. There's already talk down here of Texas and Texas A&M jumping to the SEC when MU leaves.

[warthog]

DallasChief, on 12 May 2010 - 05:24 AM, said:

There's already talk down here of Texas and Texas A&M jumping to the SEC when MU leaves.

And they are the reason MU and NU are wanting to leave. What a bunch of pusses.

[Los Pollos Hermanos]

Big 12 boss will challenge members to 'stick together'

THE DETROIT NEWS

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe says he will discuss Big Ten expansion and how it affects his conference during Big 12 conference meetings in Kansas City in early June.

Beebe told a Kansas City radio station that all of the expansion talk will be discussed during the spring meetings.

"We need to come to terms with and we need to have a frank conversation in Kansas City," Beebe told the radio station. "We need to talk about where we're going and who's on the plane when it takes off. I will be very direct and talk about that with our membership."

It appears Beebe will remind representatives from member schools about the success Big 12 sports have enjoyed, particularly football.

"We've got a lot of good things in store for us if we stick together," he said. "It would be a shame, given that all boats have risen with this tide created by the Big 12, that they think they can have a better future somewhere else."

A radio report earlier this week indicated that the Big Ten had extended membership offers to Notre Dame, Rutgers and Big 12 members Missouri and Nebraska.

Sources told The Detroit News no formal invitations have been made.

Here are the current divisions for Big 12 football:

North: Colorado, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Nebraska

South: Baylor, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech

http://www.detnews.c...-stick-together-

[chiefsfaninky]

DallasChief, on 12 May 2010 - 05:24 AM, said:

There's already talk down here of Texas and Texas A&M jumping to the SEC when MU leaves.

I hadn't heard that...interesting. The only SEC talk I've heard was that if the Big 10 decided to expand, that they would follow suit, and rumors are, that Fla. State and Miami, are 2 choices. If the Big 10 decides to go to 16 teams. then I would like to see Georgia Tech, and either Clemson or Loserville.

[warthog]

Don Bebee is a Dweebe.

[HG]

warthog, on 13 May 2010 - 07:24 PM, said:

Don Bebee is a Dweebe.

Whats he got to do with it?

[warthog]

HG, on 13 May 2010 - 08:31 PM, said:

Whats he got to do with it?

Sorry, I meant Dan Bebee is a big Dweebe.