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Posted 11 February 2010 - 09:10 AM

I think I have made it known that I have a massive hard-on for Eric Berry when the Chiefs select in round 1 this year. I was just looking at a mock draft and saw this video included in the write-up.



yikes! I am still on the Berry Bandwagon, but he got jacked up! It was a pretty close matchup, but I would say that Tebow won. Tebow is a big boy, but it just looks funny to see him put a safety on his heels even just a bit.
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Posted 11 February 2010 - 09:17 AM

Wow, that sucked. I've fallen off the Berry bandwagon long ago. "No" to a safety in the top 5.

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 09:32 AM

View PostBrooklynChiefsFan, on 11 February 2010 - 09:10 AM, said:

I think I have made it known that I have a massive hard-on for Eric Berry when the Chiefs select in round 1 this year. I was just looking at a mock draft and saw this video included in the write-up.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv3UpcZRlWU"]http://www.youtube.c...h?v=uv3UpcZRlWU[/url]

yikes! I am still on the Berry Bandwagon, but he got jacked up! It was a pretty close matchup, but I would say that Tebow won. Tebow is a big boy, but it just looks funny to see him put a safety on his heels even just a bit.


I can't help but wonder though, how much of that was Berry holding back cuz he thought Tebow would go into a slide, and didn't want to draw a flag on the play...

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 09:09 PM

Well, he is six feet three and 245 pounds, all thick polygons and smooth flat planes and inescapable corn-fed handsomeness....
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Posted 11 February 2010 - 09:52 PM

here's a question, assuming he slips past Jacksonville and goes into a free fall, how late is still too soon for Tebow? Would you take him with our 3rd rounder? The second of our seconds? Not at all? For all his deficiencies, the guy wins games. Seems a lot like VY, and I could deal with him under center.
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Posted 12 February 2010 - 08:53 AM

View PostBrooklynChiefsFan, on 11 February 2010 - 09:52 PM, said:

here's a question, assuming he slips past Jacksonville and goes into a free fall, how late is still too soon for Tebow? Would you take him with our 3rd rounder? The second of our seconds? Not at all? For all his deficiencies, the guy wins games. Seems a lot like VY, and I could deal with him under center.


I seem to remember another QB that was projected high first round...slipped into the 20's, and now we all know why...cuz he sucked at the next level.

I believe the Brown finally picked him...anyone remember that guy?

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Posted 12 February 2010 - 09:43 AM

View PostChiefInAdel, on 12 February 2010 - 08:53 AM, said:

I seem to remember another QB that was projected high first round...slipped into the 20's, and now we all know why...cuz he sucked at the next level.

I believe the Brown finally picked him...anyone remember that guy?

Aaron Rodgers?

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Posted 12 February 2010 - 12:35 PM

View PostDallasChief, on 12 February 2010 - 09:43 AM, said:

Aaron Rodgers?

LOL, that's where I thought he was going at first too. Just b/c a QB drops doesn't make him a bum. At a certain point you have to consider taking a flyer on certain types of guys. I'm thinking about the 3rd roundish if he was still available then you start to think about it.

Three names that pop into my head that were gambles late are Mario Manningham, Carl Nicks, Maurice Clarett. Obviously it doesn't always work out, but that can be said of all draft picks.
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Posted 12 February 2010 - 02:40 PM

View PostBrooklynChiefsFan, on 12 February 2010 - 12:35 PM, said:

LOL, that's where I thought he was going at first too. Just b/c a QB drops doesn't make him a bum. At a certain point you have to consider taking a flyer on certain types of guys. I'm thinking about the 3rd roundish if he was still available then you start to think about it.

Three names that pop into my head that were gambles late are Mario Manningham, Carl Nicks, Maurice Clarett. Obviously it doesn't always work out, but that can be said of all draft picks.


Aaron Rodgers was drafted by the Browns in the 20's? really?

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Posted 12 February 2010 - 03:26 PM

I knew Tebow could hit after watching him kick his mom's ass.

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Posted 12 February 2010 - 04:11 PM

View Postwarthog, on 12 February 2010 - 03:26 PM, said:

I knew Tebow could hit after watching him kick his mom's ass.

That was a cheap shot from the side when she wasnt paying attention. She was still up after that. Lets see if he has the ball to hit her head on.

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Posted 12 February 2010 - 06:42 PM

View PostHG, on 12 February 2010 - 04:11 PM, said:

Lets see if he has the ball to hit her head on.

The guy's already an Aguiar?
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Posted 12 February 2010 - 06:48 PM

View PostChiefInAdel, on 12 February 2010 - 02:40 PM, said:

Aaron Rodgers was drafted by the Browns in the 20's? really?

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Not by the Browns but he was projected to go first or second overall and he fell into the 20s. Did he slip "cuz" he sucked at the next level?

For every player that slipped and then sucked at the next level I can probably find one that slipped and didn't suck.

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Posted 12 February 2010 - 07:04 PM

View PostChiefInAdel, on 11 February 2010 - 09:32 AM, said:

I can't help but wonder though, how much of that was Berry holding back cuz he thought Tebow would go into a slide, and didn't want to draw a flag on the play...

nah, Tebow lowered his shoulder and gave no sign of going into a slide. I don't see Berry getting jacked up though. Solid collision, Berry went down because his own guy hit him. Watch until the end of the vid. The stop was made, short of the 1st down by the looks of it.I sure didn't see anything to complain about with Berry

not that it matters, the Buccs probably take him.Their secondary sucks
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Posted 12 February 2010 - 07:08 PM

View PostDallasChief, on 12 February 2010 - 06:48 PM, said:

Not by the Browns but he was projected to go first or second overall and he fell into the 20s. Did he slip "cuz" he sucked at the next level?

For every player that slipped and then sucked at the next level I can probably find one that slipped and didn't suck.

OK Mr.Smarty pants, make a list of 50 players from each category and have it on my desk by Monday morning. :teeth:
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Posted 12 February 2010 - 07:32 PM

Why are we talking about Tebow as a guy who's stock has 'slipped'.

Most are cautious of him as a pro prospect because of his awful throwing mechanics, incredibly slow wind up and delivery, and lack of experience under center. It's not like he was ever touted as an absolute top tier pro prospect.

I don't personally understand what Vince Young provided that Tebow does not (other than being slightly bigger and faster) as a pro QB prospect.

Actually, Tebow would be more appealing to me because when he talks he doesn't sound like the dumbest motherf**cker in the world like Vince Young does.

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Posted 12 February 2010 - 07:39 PM

Maybe Tebow could play safety.
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Posted 13 February 2010 - 10:06 AM

View PostThe_Jonas, on 12 February 2010 - 07:32 PM, said:

Why are we talking about Tebow as a guy who's stock has 'slipped'.

Most are cautious of him as a pro prospect because of his awful throwing mechanics, incredibly slow wind up and delivery, and lack of experience under center. It's not like he was ever touted as an absolute top tier pro prospect.

I don't personally understand what Vince Young provided that Tebow does not (other than being slightly bigger and faster) as a pro QB prospect.

Actually, Tebow would be more appealing to me because when he talks he doesn't sound like the dumbest motherf**cker in the world like Vince Young does.

You must of never heard Chris Johnson talk. Im also sure NK still has the audio from Jamal Charles. Some people are just not public speakers. Kind of like watching Todd Haley stare off into space and saying ummmm and stuttering all over himself.

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 08:44 PM

View PostD_BoweShow82, on 13 February 2010 - 10:06 AM, said:

You must of never heard Chris Johnson talk. Im also sure NK still has the audio from Jamal Charles. Some people are just not public speakers. Kind of like watching Todd Haley stare off into space and saying ummmm and stuttering all over himself.

Inarticulate QBs are not comparable to inarticulate RBs. RBs don't have to call the plays in the huddle.
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Posted 14 February 2010 - 07:58 AM

View PostThe_Jonas, on 12 February 2010 - 07:32 PM, said:

Why are we talking about Tebow as a guy who's stock has 'slipped'.

Most are cautious of him as a pro prospect because of his awful throwing mechanics, incredibly slow wind up and delivery, and lack of experience under center. It's not like he was ever touted as an absolute top tier pro prospect.

I don't personally understand what Vince Young provided that Tebow does not (other than being slightly bigger and faster) as a pro QB prospect.

Actually, Tebow would be more appealing to me because when he talks he doesn't sound like the dumbest motherf**cker in the world like Vince Young does.

Not a fan of Vince young, but what he brings to the table are much better mechanics, a much stronger arm, more speed, and more athleticism.

But not much else.

What TeBow offers is that he's a winner in college.

With his physical tools, or more specifically, what he lacks in physiacl tools, can not be overcome by his intangible.




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