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[warthog]

Pats Trying To Move Into Top Ten
Posted by Mike Florio on April 24, 2009, 1:23 p.m.

Amid a dearth of pre-draft rumors (for now), Peter King of SI.com reports that the Patriots are trying to move into the top ten.

Per King, executives from two different teams said that the Pats have offered their first-round pick and one of their three second-rounders (No. 47 overall) to move into the No. 8 spot, currently held by Jacksonville. Jags G.M. Gene Smith declined the offer.

King says that the Pats might also be trying to trade up to No. 9 with the Packers.

Under the original draft trade chart, the Pats’ first-round pick (No. 23 overall) is worth 760 points. The 47th pick is worth 430. The total (I need more toes) is 1,190.

But under the original draft trade chart, the No. 8 spot has a value of 1,400 points. The ninth spot is worth 1,350.

Teams don’t trade up simply for the privilege of having a higher pick; they do it because there’s a certain player they want.

Presently, the Pats’ target isn’t known.

Given that the Patriots apparently hope to cut the line in front of the 49ers at No. 10, the target could be a tackle, like Andre Smith. Or perhaps an outside linebacker, like Brian Cushing.

One thing is clear: the Patriots will do everything they can to keep any possible deal quiet until the pick they want is on the clock. That way, the Pats won’t have to worry about being leapfrogged.
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/24/...e-into-top-ten/


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Hey, maybe we can make a trade with the Patriots and get our number 2 back that we sent them for Cassel.

[Bru]

I don't get why, they don't have the cap room for a top ten pick IMO..Name one first rounder that worked out for NE the past few years..Maroney? Jackson?

[SoCalChiefsFan]

They want Tyson Jackson bad, they think he's the next Richard Seymour apparently. This guy's stock has shot up more in the past week than Mark Sanchez in a month. Tyson wasn't supposed to be anywhere off the draft boards except between picks 12-20 or so, now he's a top 5 choice? Im sure he's solid, but damn, where did this come from?

[warthog]

KC_Chiefs_4Life, on Apr 25 2009, 02:57 AM, said:

They want Tyson Jackson bad, they think he's the next Richard Seymour apparently. This guy's stock has shot up more in the past week than Mark Sanchez in a month. Tyson wasn't supposed to be anywhere off the draft boards except between picks 12-20 or so, now he's a top 5 choice? Im sure he's solid, but damn, where did this come from?

See, thats what I don't get, why someone shoots up from the very back of the pack to the top just in that span between the combine and now. I was told it's because of personal interviews and workouts teams do, but I don't buy it. It's wierd.

[warthog]

Pats Looking To Get Out Of Round One?
Posted by Mike Florio on April 25, 2009, 9:00 a.m.

There’s a rumor making the rounds that the Patriots’ reported effort to get into the bottom of the top ten was a ruse, and that the team has no desire to move up.

In fact, we’re hearing that the Patriots are actually considering the possibility of dropping out of round one altogether. At No. 23, the Pats are in position to dangle the pick to a team that might like to get in position to get a given receiver before a six-pack of teams that need pass-catchers hits the clock: the Fins at No. 25, the Ravens at No. 26, the Colts at No. 27, the Eagles at No. 28, the Giants at No. 29, and the Titans at No. 30.

[Editor’s note: Yeah, I know the Eagles traded the 28th pick. I was looking at an outdated first-round roster when I wrote this. And because I’ve got a list of like 50 stories I want to post ASAFP, I might make a mistake or two. So thanks for pointing out the error, to all 234 of you who did. Now direct that energy toward signing up for the Predict the Pick challenge.]

This would explain the Pats reportedly offering a package to the Jaguars that falls dramatically short of the requirements of the draft trade chart.

And despite talk that the chart should change, the need for change applies at the very top, where the contracts have gone as the kids say in the comments “batsh-t crazy.” By pick number eight, the craziness subsides, making the current chart still very relevant.

And now that folks like Chris Mortensen are suggesting that the Pats would trade up possibly to pick off receiver Michael Crabtree, we’re wondering whether coach Bill Belichick might be trying to spark a little fire under the fanny of Randy Moss, whose incredible talents from time to time need a lawnmower-style cord pulling in order to fully engage.
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/25/...t-of-round-one/

[Bru]

Why the hell would they take a wr? They are solid in that position in depth as well. Anyone coming on that team as a WR would instantly be a #3..

As for the Jackson comment..Seymore is heading downhill IMO , he isn't the player he was and they do need to get some youth up there IMO. I am just not sure they have the cap to sign a top ten, or even 15, guy..

[BrooklynChiefsFan]

More than likely they are either trying to block the Jets from Sanchez, or jook them into giving up the farm for him.

[Bru]

BrooklynChiefsFan, on Apr 25 2009, 12:58 PM, said:

More than likely they are either trying to block the Jets from Sanchez, or jook them into giving up the farm for him.

From what I have read, The Jets did just that..lol.

Sanchez meet Vince Wilfork

[Zig]

I knew the 2nd article (about trading down) was more accurate than the one about trading up but 1 thing I've learned is the Pats never do what you think they will. I figured they'd trade down but to draft LBs. They passed on some good ones, more than once. I like the players drafted but LB is the biggest need. The secondary was already miles better than last year with the signings of Bodden and Springs plus the expected development of last year's high draft picks Wheatley and Wilhite...We need LBs Bill!

I figure this means Rodney is done and Taylor is coming and I love getting a couple of '10 2nd round picks. Overall pretty good imo.

[Zig]

BrooklynChiefsFan, on Apr 25 2009, 12:58 PM, said:

More than likely they are either trying to block the Jets from Sanchez, or jook them into giving up the farm for him.

like last year with Ghoulston lol

Ryan doesn't seem as stupid as Mangini though. They gave up a lot for Sanchez but overall they are doing pretty good.

I also hate that the f-ing Colts took my boy Don Brown from UConn.