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Chiefs Chiefs Training Camp and Preseason 2019
#21

(07-30-2019, 05:35 PM)asskickingboots Wrote:  
(07-30-2019, 04:19 PM)tyecopeland Wrote:  
(07-30-2019, 01:59 PM)NOLA Wrote:  
(07-30-2019, 11:27 AM)DallasChief Wrote:  
(07-30-2019, 09:41 AM)NOLA Wrote:  I don't feel like our CB corps--an absolute dumpster fire last year in my opinion--got any better this offseason, addition by subtraction or otherwise.  And Spags is a fucking idiot, so this all tracks.

(My plan is maybe I can get all of this out of my system now before the season actually starts.  I'm really, really not stoked on the Spags thing.)

They seem to have put a LOT of eggs in the "young player improvement" basket.  Breeland and Fuller are the only two with much experience.

Agreed.  Way too much, probably.  There's not a lot of indication last year that they have anything to build on. 

We have cap space and Mahomes on a cheap contract.  I don't understand why they didn't make a bigger move to address the secondary.  I'm very happy with the Honey Badger signing, I just wish they'd gotten him some help back there, especially at corner.

I honestly don't know who was available but who would you have gone out and got?

Here's a list I found of the free agent cbs and the contact they signed.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/cornerback/#

Yikes, I realized CB was thin, but not that bad this offseason. Steven Nelson was the 3rd highest paid FA CB this offseason, and it doesn't really look like a fluke. The truth is while there's players I'd rather have than him on that list, only a couple of them are clear cut better, and they cost too damn much for what you're getting.

If we wanted a good CB it would have to be via trade (Trae Waynes, Patrick Peterson) or in the draft. Either way, it was going to take a draft pick or more.

Yeah, I'm not sure who they could've made a play for (other than Peterson), but I think trade was the way to go. 

The Saints picked up Eli Apple off the scrap heap for a 4th round pick last year.  Feel like a similar move would've been good (but probably not that particular one, as the Saints have quietly reassembled the 2015-2016 era Ohio State Buckeyes, especially the secondary, and that's why Apple has returned to form).
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#22

(07-31-2019, 09:59 AM)asskickingboots Wrote:  Apparently CB / return specialist Tremon Smith is getting some work in with the RBs today. May not be a permanent move, but I honestly hope it is, and not just because it makes it harder for Carlos Hyde to make the roster.

https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2019/07/...=home-hero

Smith hasn't had much success thus far as a corner (1 lackluster start against the Seahawks), but he was one of the better returners in the NFL last year and as such I really want to see him stick on this roster. His combination of speed (4.3 forty) and agility makes sense at RB, we'll just have to see if he has the vision and physicality to play the position.

The concern is that if he couldn't cut it at cb with our roster as it is, what was he doing getting drafted as a CB. And then also our rb group seems a lot deeper than CB so I don't see how he makes the roster unless it's just as a return specialist.
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#23

(07-31-2019, 10:06 AM)tyecopeland Wrote:  
(07-31-2019, 09:59 AM)asskickingboots Wrote:  Apparently CB / return specialist Tremon Smith is getting some work in with the RBs today. May not be a permanent move, but I honestly hope it is, and not just because it makes it harder for Carlos Hyde to make the roster.

https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2019/07/...=home-hero

Smith hasn't had much success thus far as a corner (1 lackluster start against the Seahawks), but he was one of the better returners in the NFL last year and as such I really want to see him stick on this roster. His combination of speed (4.3 forty) and agility makes sense at RB, we'll just have to see if he has the vision and physicality to play the position.

The concern is that if he couldn't cut it at cb with our roster as it is, what was he doing getting drafted as a CB. And then also our rb group seems a lot deeper than CB so I don't see how he makes the roster unless it's just as a return specialist.

One of the first things they mentioned after drafting Tremon Smith was his return ability. We're talking about a 6th round pick. It's not silly to draft a guy primarily on special teams value that late in the draft, especially if you think there's a chance he'll develop into something more.

By the same token, if you figured someone isn't going to work out, you might as well see if there's some value elsewhere they can provide. Smith is a former All-State high school QB. They had him playing the role of Lamar Jackson on the scout team. It's not crazy to think he has some yet unexplored offensive value.

Last but not least, Andy did say this was just a move made due to injuries in the RB group. Smith was getting playing time with the 2s as a result. This is likely temporary unless he ends up looking good in the role.
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#24

Honestly, from what I've seen... RB is a position you convert guys FROM. 

Seems like a 'hey dude, you suck at defense, last chance because we have a new returner" kinda deal to me with Smith.

He's shown to be good with the ball in his hands.  Show me man.  Do it.  It's tough on this team, but if you're being converted FROM CB  on THIS team... you're not good at it.  Our CB's are an obvious weakness.
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#25

Turns out changing Tremon Smith to offense has been in the works for a while, even though RB injuries is what made them pull the trigger.

“It was actually brought up last year, mid-way through the season, doing some good kick returns and (Andy Reid) brought it up,” Smith said. “Some packages actually, so it’s been thought of, but it hasn’t happened overnight.”

https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2019/08/...=home-hero
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#26

Williams returned to practice today. 10 days off for the hamstring
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