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Chiefs Chiefs Training Camp and Preseason 2019
#11

Apparently our cbs haven't fared very well. But, it should be hard with watkins hill and kelce all catching passes from mahomes
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#12

(07-30-2019, 09:17 AM)tyecopeland Wrote:  Apparently our cbs haven't fared very well. But, it should be hard with watkins hill and kelce all catching passes from mahomes

I don't feel like our CB corps--an absolute dumpster fire last year in my opinion--got any better this offseason, addition by subtraction or otherwise.  And Spags is a fucking idiot, so this all tracks.

(My plan is maybe I can get all of this out of my system now before the season actually starts.  I'm really, really not stoked on the Spags thing.)
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#13

Tyreek was carted off the field. Early word is bruised quad.

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#14

(07-30-2019, 09:41 AM)NOLA Wrote:  
(07-30-2019, 09:17 AM)tyecopeland Wrote:  Apparently our cbs haven't fared very well. But, it should be hard with watkins hill and kelce all catching passes from mahomes

I don't feel like our CB corps--an absolute dumpster fire last year in my opinion--got any better this offseason, addition by subtraction or otherwise.  And Spags is a fucking idiot, so this all tracks.

(My plan is maybe I can get all of this out of my system now before the season actually starts.  I'm really, really not stoked on the Spags thing.)

They seem to have put a LOT of eggs in the "young player improvement" basket.  Breeland and Fuller are the only two with much experience.
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(07-30-2019, 10:36 AM)tyecopeland Wrote:  Tyreek was carted off the field. Early word is bruised quad.

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#16

(07-30-2019, 11:27 AM)DallasChief Wrote:  
(07-30-2019, 09:41 AM)NOLA Wrote:  
(07-30-2019, 09:17 AM)tyecopeland Wrote:  Apparently our cbs haven't fared very well. But, it should be hard with watkins hill and kelce all catching passes from mahomes

I don't feel like our CB corps--an absolute dumpster fire last year in my opinion--got any better this offseason, addition by subtraction or otherwise.  And Spags is a fucking idiot, so this all tracks.

(My plan is maybe I can get all of this out of my system now before the season actually starts.  I'm really, really not stoked on the Spags thing.)

They seem to have put a LOT of eggs in the "young player improvement" basket.  Breeland and Fuller are the only two with much experience.

I'm in general agreement with theres remarks but breeland has to be better than scandrick. And ward, I think, had flashes last year that if he does continue improvement would put him at least equal to Nelson. So there should be better play but I still expect teams to have to throw a lot against us so there will still be lots of completions and yards given up.
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#17

(07-30-2019, 11:27 AM)DallasChief Wrote:  
(07-30-2019, 09:41 AM)NOLA Wrote:  
(07-30-2019, 09:17 AM)tyecopeland Wrote:  Apparently our cbs haven't fared very well. But, it should be hard with watkins hill and kelce all catching passes from mahomes

I don't feel like our CB corps--an absolute dumpster fire last year in my opinion--got any better this offseason, addition by subtraction or otherwise.  And Spags is a fucking idiot, so this all tracks.

(My plan is maybe I can get all of this out of my system now before the season actually starts.  I'm really, really not stoked on the Spags thing.)

They seem to have put a LOT of eggs in the "young player improvement" basket.  Breeland and Fuller are the only two with much experience.

Agreed.  Way too much, probably.  There's not a lot of indication last year that they have anything to build on. 

We have cap space and Mahomes on a cheap contract.  I don't understand why they didn't make a bigger move to address the secondary.  I'm very happy with the Honey Badger signing, I just wish they'd gotten him some help back there, especially at corner.
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#18

(07-30-2019, 01:59 PM)NOLA Wrote:  
(07-30-2019, 11:27 AM)DallasChief Wrote:  
(07-30-2019, 09:41 AM)NOLA Wrote:  
(07-30-2019, 09:17 AM)tyecopeland Wrote:  Apparently our cbs haven't fared very well. But, it should be hard with watkins hill and kelce all catching passes from mahomes

I don't feel like our CB corps--an absolute dumpster fire last year in my opinion--got any better this offseason, addition by subtraction or otherwise.  And Spags is a fucking idiot, so this all tracks.

(My plan is maybe I can get all of this out of my system now before the season actually starts.  I'm really, really not stoked on the Spags thing.)

They seem to have put a LOT of eggs in the "young player improvement" basket.  Breeland and Fuller are the only two with much experience.

Agreed.  Way too much, probably.  There's not a lot of indication last year that they have anything to build on. 

We have cap space and Mahomes on a cheap contract.  I don't understand why they didn't make a bigger move to address the secondary.  I'm very happy with the Honey Badger signing, I just wish they'd gotten him some help back there, especially at corner.

I honestly don't know who was available but who would you have gone out and got?

Here's a list I found of the free agent cbs and the contact they signed.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/cornerback/#
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#19

(07-30-2019, 04:19 PM)tyecopeland Wrote:  
(07-30-2019, 01:59 PM)NOLA Wrote:  
(07-30-2019, 11:27 AM)DallasChief Wrote:  
(07-30-2019, 09:41 AM)NOLA Wrote:  
(07-30-2019, 09:17 AM)tyecopeland Wrote:  Apparently our cbs haven't fared very well. But, it should be hard with watkins hill and kelce all catching passes from mahomes

I don't feel like our CB corps--an absolute dumpster fire last year in my opinion--got any better this offseason, addition by subtraction or otherwise.  And Spags is a fucking idiot, so this all tracks.

(My plan is maybe I can get all of this out of my system now before the season actually starts.  I'm really, really not stoked on the Spags thing.)

They seem to have put a LOT of eggs in the "young player improvement" basket.  Breeland and Fuller are the only two with much experience.

Agreed.  Way too much, probably.  There's not a lot of indication last year that they have anything to build on. 

We have cap space and Mahomes on a cheap contract.  I don't understand why they didn't make a bigger move to address the secondary.  I'm very happy with the Honey Badger signing, I just wish they'd gotten him some help back there, especially at corner.

I honestly don't know who was available but who would you have gone out and got?

Here's a list I found of the free agent cbs and the contact they signed.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/cornerback/#

Yikes, I realized CB was thin, but not that bad this offseason. Steven Nelson was the 3rd highest paid FA CB this offseason, and it doesn't really look like a fluke. The truth is while there's players I'd rather have than him on that list, only a couple of them are clear cut better, and they cost too damn much for what you're getting.

If we wanted a good CB it would have to be via trade (Trae Waynes, Patrick Peterson) or in the draft. Either way, it was going to take a draft pick or more.
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#20

Apparently CB / return specialist Tremon Smith is getting some work in with the RBs today. May not be a permanent move, but I honestly hope it is, and not just because it makes it harder for Carlos Hyde to make the roster.

https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2019/07/...=home-hero

Smith hasn't had much success thus far as a corner (1 lackluster start against the Seahawks), but he was one of the better returners in the NFL last year and as such I really want to see him stick on this roster. His combination of speed (4.3 forty) and agility makes sense at RB, we'll just have to see if he has the vision and physicality to play the position.
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