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Black Friday
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I'm a little curious if any of you are doing any of the doorbuster Black Friday sales or if you find any deals worth bragging about.

Best early deals I've seen are Duluth Trading longtail t-shirts for $10 (I often wear them to work) and Xbox Live $80 cards for $70 on Newegg. When you buy all or most of your games digitally like I do, a 12.5% discount before any other sales is awesome, so I bought the customer limit of 3 and am considering buying a few more under my dad's name, but I'll wait to see if they have any better deals between now and Saturday.

I also saw a 55" 4k Sony TV that comes with a PS4 Pro for $750. If any of you are interested in that, I could go find the video that said the retailer. I'm going to buy an Xbox Scorpio and a Nintendo Switch after they come out, I think both are scheduled for next year, so while that's tempting I really don't need another console.


If I'm being honest, I mostly posted this thread for the self-serving reason that I need a new TV (my projector bulb is at the end of its life and I'm due for an upgrade) so I'm looking for a 4k TV. If any of you see an especially good deal on one online, drop a link here.

Most of the cheaper 4k TVs aren't true HDR (High Dynamic Range) sets, and if you ask the experts having good HDR capabilities might be more important than the 4k portion of it even. It sounds like OLEDs provide a slightly better overall image quality than LED backlit LCDs, but it's a relatively new technology that has some downfalls, like it's easier to have a temporary "burn-in" image than an LCD supposedly and despite having deeper blacks can't be as bright as a backllit LED LCD. I don't typically like my screen ultra-bright, so the real concern with OLED for me is the price. Pretty much everything else (Smart, Curved, 3D) does not matter to me. I'm willing to pay a scooch more for a name brand like LG, Sony, Samsung, Sharp, or Toshiba, but would be willing to try others.

So, I guess what I'm looking for is a 55"-65" OLED or cheaper LED. I've got the room to go bigger if there's a better value for a larger screen, but I doubt that'll happen that way.
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If anyone can tell me where I can still by a genuine plasma TV, let me know. Still can't believe that superior technology lost in the marketplace.


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(11-23-2016, 10:04 AM)NOLA Wrote: If anyone can tell me where I can still by a genuine plasma TV, let me know. Still can't believe that superior technology lost in the marketplace.


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Supposedly LG and Samsung still made Plasma last year or so, but not in 4k. You may want to give OLED a look.

If I'm to believe the editors of CNet, many of the advantages Plasma has over LCD, OLED is even better on. Specifically I'm referring to Black Levels, Contrast, and overall picture quality. Plasma still has better motion blur, viewing angles, and uniformity, but OLEDs outperform LCDs there too.

Biggest advantage LCDs have is price.
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(11-23-2016, 10:04 AM)NOLA Wrote: If anyone can tell me where I can still by a genuine plasma TV, let me know. Still can't believe that superior technology lost in the marketplace.


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Really?  It surprises you?

The item with the best value will always dominate the market. 

Otherwise everyone would have owned a beta max instead of a VHS.  It was a superior machine.

The cost and limited life expectancy of Plasma TV's didn't seem viable after the LED's flooded the market.
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(11-23-2016, 10:39 AM)The_Jonas Wrote:
(11-23-2016, 10:04 AM)NOLA Wrote: If anyone can tell me where I can still by a genuine plasma TV, let me know. Still can't believe that superior technology lost in the marketplace.


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Really?  It surprises you?

The item with the best value will always dominate the market. 

Otherwise everyone would have owned a beta max instead of a VHS.  It was a superior machine.

The cost and limited life expectancy of Plasma TV's didn't seem viable after the LED's flooded the market.

Add to that the negative stigma that Plasma TVs have worse image burn-in problems, which is somewhat unfair considering that isn't much of a problem anymore with pixel-shifting technology. That even scares away even high-end tech fans. It's really no wonder plasma didn't "win"

EDIT: Speaking of that sort of thing, even though Beta Max was superior, Beta Max players were notorious for eating tapes, yet another reason people avoided them.
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(11-23-2016, 12:12 PM)asskickingboots Wrote:
(11-23-2016, 10:39 AM)The_Jonas Wrote:
(11-23-2016, 10:04 AM)NOLA Wrote: If anyone can tell me where I can still by a genuine plasma TV, let me know. Still can't believe that superior technology lost in the marketplace.


Sent from my Batphone... because I'm Batman!

Really?  It surprises you?

The item with the best value will always dominate the market. 

Otherwise everyone would have owned a beta max instead of a VHS.  It was a superior machine.

The cost and limited life expectancy of Plasma TV's didn't seem viable after the LED's flooded the market.

Add to that the negative stigma that Plasma TVs have worse image burn-in problems, which is somewhat unfair considering that isn't much of a problem anymore with pixel-shifting technology. That even scares away even high-end tech fans. It's really no wonder plasma didn't "win"

EDIT: Speaking of that sort of thing, even though Beta Max was superior, Beta Max players were notorious for eating tapes, yet another reason people avoided them.

They were?  Cos we had one when I was a kid and that never happened once.

The cheap VHS players we got after Betamax died however...
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(11-23-2016, 07:27 PM)The_Jonas Wrote:
(11-23-2016, 12:12 PM)asskickingboots Wrote:
(11-23-2016, 10:39 AM)The_Jonas Wrote:
(11-23-2016, 10:04 AM)NOLA Wrote: If anyone can tell me where I can still by a genuine plasma TV, let me know. Still can't believe that superior technology lost in the marketplace.


Sent from my Batphone... because I'm Batman!

Really?  It surprises you?

The item with the best value will always dominate the market. 

Otherwise everyone would have owned a beta max instead of a VHS.  It was a superior machine.

The cost and limited life expectancy of Plasma TV's didn't seem viable after the LED's flooded the market.

Add to that the negative stigma that Plasma TVs have worse image burn-in problems, which is somewhat unfair considering that isn't much of a problem anymore with pixel-shifting technology. That even scares away even high-end tech fans. It's really no wonder plasma didn't "win"

EDIT: Speaking of that sort of thing, even though Beta Max was superior, Beta Max players were notorious for eating tapes, yet another reason people avoided them.

They were?  Cos we had one when I was a kid and that never happened once.

The cheap VHS players we got after Betamax died however...

I'm basing this off of something my uncle told me instead of personal experience, but as he told it it's kind of like the problem with image burn-in on Plasma TVs. Some early models had a real problem with it and that scared off some would be early adopters.

Honestly though, the porn industry choosing VHS as it's favorite format was probably the real final nail in the coffin.
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(11-24-2016, 10:10 AM)asskickingboots Wrote:
(11-23-2016, 07:27 PM)The_Jonas Wrote:
(11-23-2016, 12:12 PM)asskickingboots Wrote:
(11-23-2016, 10:39 AM)The_Jonas Wrote:
(11-23-2016, 10:04 AM)NOLA Wrote: If anyone can tell me where I can still by a genuine plasma TV, let me know. Still can't believe that superior technology lost in the marketplace.


Sent from my Batphone... because I'm Batman!

Really?  It surprises you?

The item with the best value will always dominate the market. 

Otherwise everyone would have owned a beta max instead of a VHS.  It was a superior machine.

The cost and limited life expectancy of Plasma TV's didn't seem viable after the LED's flooded the market.

Add to that the negative stigma that Plasma TVs have worse image burn-in problems, which is somewhat unfair considering that isn't much of a problem anymore with pixel-shifting technology. That even scares away even high-end tech fans. It's really no wonder plasma didn't "win"

EDIT: Speaking of that sort of thing, even though Beta Max was superior, Beta Max players were notorious for eating tapes, yet another reason people avoided them.

They were?  Cos we had one when I was a kid and that never happened once.

The cheap VHS players we got after Betamax died however...

I'm basing this off of something my uncle told me instead of personal experience, but as he told it it's kind of like the problem with image burn-in on Plasma TVs. Some early models had a real problem with it and that scared off some would be early adopters.

Honestly though, the porn industry choosing VHS as it's favorite format was probably the real final nail in the coffin.

I remember the day we had to buy a VHS.

My dad wanted to watch Robocop (member Robocop?), but the video store (member video stores?) only had it in VHS.  Actually the world only had it in VHS.  

He drove to Radio Shack (member radio shack?), bought a VHS, and that was that.  

Man I'm old.  No more childhood stories. Sad
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(11-24-2016, 11:46 AM)The_Jonas Wrote: I remember the day we had to buy a VHS.

My dad wanted to watch Robocop (member Robocop?), but the video store (member video stores?) only had it in VHS.  Actually the world only had it in VHS.  

He drove to Radio Shack (member radio shack?), bought a VHS, and that was that.  

Man I'm old.  No more childhood stories. Sad

Robocop on VHS? I'd buy that for a dollar!
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(11-24-2016, 11:46 AM)The_Jonas Wrote:
(11-24-2016, 10:10 AM)asskickingboots Wrote:
(11-23-2016, 07:27 PM)The_Jonas Wrote:
(11-23-2016, 12:12 PM)asskickingboots Wrote:
(11-23-2016, 10:39 AM)The_Jonas Wrote: Really?  It surprises you?

The item with the best value will always dominate the market. 

Otherwise everyone would have owned a beta max instead of a VHS.  It was a superior machine.

The cost and limited life expectancy of Plasma TV's didn't seem viable after the LED's flooded the market.

Add to that the negative stigma that Plasma TVs have worse image burn-in problems, which is somewhat unfair considering that isn't much of a problem anymore with pixel-shifting technology. That even scares away even high-end tech fans. It's really no wonder plasma didn't "win"

EDIT: Speaking of that sort of thing, even though Beta Max was superior, Beta Max players were notorious for eating tapes, yet another reason people avoided them.

They were?  Cos we had one when I was a kid and that never happened once.

The cheap VHS players we got after Betamax died however...

I'm basing this off of something my uncle told me instead of personal experience, but as he told it it's kind of like the problem with image burn-in on Plasma TVs. Some early models had a real problem with it and that scared off some would be early adopters.

Honestly though, the porn industry choosing VHS as it's favorite format was probably the real final nail in the coffin.

I remember the day we had to buy a VHS.

My dad wanted to watch Robocop (member Robocop?), but the video store (member video stores?) only had it in VHS.  Actually the world only had it in VHS.  

He drove to Radio Shack (member radio shack?), bought a VHS, and that was that.  

Man I'm old.  No more childhood stories. Sad



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Homer: [reading] "Project Arcturus couldn't have succeeded without you. This will get you a little closer to that dream of yours. It's not the Dallas Cowboys, but it's a start. Drop me a line if you're on the East Coast, Hank Scorpio." Aw, the Denver Broncos!
Marge: I think owning the Denver Broncos is pretty good.
Homer: Yeah, yeah.
Marge: Well, explain to me why it isn't.
Homer: [sighs] You just don't understand football, Marge.
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