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  Alex Collins
Posted by: NOLA - 12-01-2018, 01:10 PM - Forum: 65 Toss Power Trap - Replies (7)

Has just been placed on IR.  He finished 2017 with 1600+ yards, and has a murky--at best--situation in Baltimore in 2018.  He's also set to be a restricted free agent, and was rumored to be a Chiefs pick over Hill that year.  I like signing him as an offseason move.  Thoughts?

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  Kareem Hunt
Posted by: DallasChief - 11-30-2018, 02:54 PM - Forum: 65 Toss Power Trap - Replies (92)

Not good.


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  Top 25 under 25 according to ESPN
Posted by: tyecopeland - 11-29-2018, 07:02 PM - Forum: 65 Toss Power Trap - Replies (3)

The NFL is increasingly a young man's game. Average ages for starters have plummeted since the 2011 labor agreement implemented a rookie wage scale (among other possible factors). With so many young players in prominent roles, there was no shortage of worthy candidates for my annual Top 25 Players Under Age 25 list. When one of the longtime personnel evaluators I consulted for the piece tried to find a corresponding list of players 32 and older, we struggled to find even 20 who were healthy, playing at a high level and not quarterbacks or specialists.
There was another discovery in putting together this list. The top offensive players were all very talented, of course, but in many cases, they also had highly acclaimed play designers putting them in position to maximize their abilities. Andy Reid and Sean McVay are the offensive designers for four of the top five offensive players. Sean Payton and Norv Turner call plays for the next two, and Matt Nagy coaches one of the others.
Here are the 25, supported in some cases with comments from NFL coaches and evaluators collected during the season and this week. Note that injuries are keeping Joey Bosa and O.J. Howard off the list for now. Stefon Diggs missed the cut because his 25th birthday arrives this week. Baker Mayfield was a consideration too, but could be a year away.

1. Patrick Mahomes, QB, Kansas City Chiefs

Turns 25: Sept. 17, 2020

With 37 touchdown passes, Mahomes is on pace to throw nearly 54 of them this season, which would break the record of 50 set by Tom Brady in 2007. Offense is up across the league, but Mahomes is still outpacing the other leading MVP candidates. Andrew Luck (32), Drew Brees (29), Philip Rivers (26) and Jared Goff (26) are his nearest challengers for scoring passes.

"He makes the same throws as Aaron Rodgers and is a great kid," an evaluator said. "He can do it from any platform. It's just fun to watch."

[Image: kc.png?w=110&h=110&transparent=true]2. Tyreek Hill, WR, Kansas City Chiefs

Turns 25: March 1, 2019

If a scientist in an NFL laboratory could combine Devin Hester with DeSean Jackson, would the new creation be as good as Hill?

"Tyreek Hill is a really elite return man and a really effective every-down wide receiver who is an elite deep threat and can also run all the special plays -- the jet sweeps, reverses, those things," a veteran coach said. "Can you name another guy like that? They also have a unique situation with the synergy between the back, the tight end, the wide receiver and the elite playcaller. You run out of skill defenders to take care of all the matchup problems."

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3. Todd Gurley, RB, Los Angeles Rams

Turns 25: Aug. 3, 2019

Gurley leads the NFL in yards from scrimmage since entering the NFL in 2015. Like so many others high on this list, he's in an ideal situation.

"The value of coaching is just so obvious," an evaluator said. "Gurley had a good rushing year as a rookie, a bad rushing year after that, then he got McVay and is suddenly super-elite."

[Image: dal.png?w=110&h=110&transparent=true]4. Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Dallas Cowboys

Turns 25: July 22, 2020

Elliott ranks first in rushing yards and second to Gurley in scrimmage yards since his 2016 NFL debut. His 4.72 yards per carry rank second to Mark Ingram (4.97) among the 14 players with at least 500 carries the past three seasons.

Last summer, when I asked a defensive coordinator why he did not place Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott in the top two tiers for my 2018 QB Tiers survey, he pointed to Elliott.

"When you have that run game, you are going to see simple single-high defenses, so there will not be combination coverages, no stuff where the coverage is going to change on the motion, because people are geared to stop your run game," the coordinator said. "Unless you have two man-child corners, there are going to be some open throws."

To some, that explains some of the value a top back can provide beyond what rushing statistics convey.

[Image: kc.png?w=110&h=110&transparent=true]5. Kareem Hunt, RB, Kansas City Chiefs

Turns 25: Aug. 6, 2020

Remember way back in the 2017 preseason, when the Chiefs lost running back Spencer Ware to a serious knee injury? I was in the Seattle press box for the Chiefs-Seahawks game that night and remember thinking Kansas City could be in some trouble at the position. A week earlier, while attending the Chiefs-Bengals preseason game mainly to see Mahomes, I had ridden in a stadium elevator packed with Chiefs fans wearing No. 27 jerseys. Could Hunt's own family have foreseen what the 2017 third-round pick would become?
"He has breakaway speed and unique receiving skills, and then is the beneficiary of a playcaller who knows how to use all the weapons," an exec said. "I'm just a huge Hunt fan. Like Christian McCaffrey, he runs and catches."

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  Coaching Changes
Posted by: Razorchief - 11-26-2018, 07:09 PM - Forum: 65 Toss Power Trap - Replies (23)

So. Let's get this going for the changes now. Hue Jackson already gone and now defensive "consultant" for Bengals teams which just got beat by Browns. Hmmm. Okay. So. Who is next in line? Jags and Marrone since they just fired their offensive coordinator? Jets? Donkeys? Giants and Shurmur on the outs? Eli with him. Tampa looking for coach? Let's play Coaching Roulette

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  Celebration Confusion
Posted by: Razorchief - 11-22-2018, 03:39 PM - Forum: 65 Toss Power Trap - Replies (11)

I see players, hell entire defensive or offensive units, doing elaborate celebrations and not getting called for Unsportsmanlike Conduct. Then I see Hill do his little 2 finger thing which he always does and he gets nailed for 15. Marcus Peters took his helmet off, and talked to by a ref, and nothing. Is there actually a standard for what is or isn't a penalty? Hill's seem's minor compared to some of the choreographed ballets

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  GAME 12 2018: Chiefs at Raiders
Posted by: ChiefsChick23 - 11-20-2018, 08:34 AM - Forum: 65 Toss Power Trap - Replies (73)

We've got two weeks to heal up and prepare for the mighty Raiders in their beloved home stadium.


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Posted by: ChiefsChick23 - 11-18-2018, 11:00 AM - Forum: 65 Toss Power Trap - Replies (3)

Thought I'd start a thread for any news during the Bye week.

Apparently Eric Berry is supposed to start practicing the week after the bye.

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  Chargers Game 12/13 - who wants to go?
Posted by: ChiefsChick23 - 11-13-2018, 06:43 PM - Forum: 65 Toss Power Trap - Replies (3)

I have 2 Tix for 12/13. I will take you but you buy the parking pass and get there early to tailgate properly.

Any takers?

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  Tyreek thread
Posted by: DallasChief - 11-13-2018, 02:37 PM - Forum: 65 Toss Power Trap - Replies (9)


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  Stan Lee
Posted by: HG - 11-13-2018, 12:33 PM - Forum: 65 Toss Power Trap - Replies (8)

Some folks didnt care for him.  For me the team of Stan Lee and Jack "The King" Kirby runs really deep.  In 1966 I had corrective leg surgery on both legs.  I was in casts for a year before I could rehab and learn to walk again.  (And thats how I was stuck on the couch for the NFL/AFL Championship game.  But while other kids were playing after school in the afternoons, I was on the couch.  On a UHF channel, (If you dont know what that is just walk away. lol) There was a Marvel Super Heroes cartoon.  It introduced me to Namor, Captain America, Iron Man, THe Hulk, and some hippy with a hammer.

This got me started reading comic books and as I got older collecting them.  Marvel and DC of course, I was what Stan called, A "True Believer" I couldnt wait to read his letter sections, more and more books, X-men, Avengers,  Then came KISS.  IN A COMIC BOOK!  Death of Captain Marvel practically started a whole new industry. I grew up with Stan.  His narration and appearances on certain Marvel Cartoons and then, Movies.  Fantastic Four Cameos etc.  And then Marvel started making movies.  Love him or hate him/  You appreciated the Cameos. So for most of my life Stan was there, Never met him but he was there.  

We have a comic book/movie thread.  Forgive me if I felt Stan deserved his own.  Thank you Stan for giving us a different universe and entertaining us all these years.  You are missed and may you rest n peace.


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